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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2020 18:37:58 GMT
I'll take #89! <script src="moz-extension://1e8cf808-7c45-4ece-89ac-b9fa2eb6a347/inject-scripts/searchvideos.js" async=""></script>
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Post by Jason White on Jan 12, 2020 18:38:21 GMT
<script src="moz-extension://1e8cf808-7c45-4ece-89ac-b9fa2eb6a347/inject-scripts/searchvideos.js" async=""></script>I'll take #89! It's yours
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Post by Cezariusz Czlapinski on Jan 12, 2020 19:17:20 GMT
Sadly,missed the race start this time I asked admins by whisper message for session restart, but got no answer. Some times we waited for other drivers with problems, but sadly not this time
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Post by David Jundt on Jan 12, 2020 20:04:55 GMT
Think it would've been nice to start the season without having to be so strict and keep Cesar from having to start from the pits... I could be mean and say Fitchy was late too, why wait... Made my first Twitch stream, took it so easy that people sneaked through on me before the line. When I followed the cars ahead of me on lap 16, I just lost the back without risking much at all, too bad I spun so perfectly that I flew over the guard rail and right into the side of the grandstands, killing my engine in the process aswell as losing a wheel. Barriers seem a bit buggy here... My ISO debut went off to a bad start, even the F1 race I barely survived
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Post by David Sabre on Jan 12, 2020 20:47:49 GMT
Damn it, lap 140 something and I put it over the barrier. The car was damaged and it just got away from me.
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Post by Philippe Henrique on Jan 12, 2020 21:00:46 GMT
Lost rear grip and the car spun, the engine died and I couldn't get back....
I did nice qualy, put the car in the top 10. That Eagle have a good potential.
I left the boxes in 22º (Box start) Climb the grid 22º - 14º and I lost the car... shame.
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Post by Alberto Ibanez on Jan 12, 2020 21:04:47 GMT
Sadly,missed the race start this time I asked admins by whisper message for session restart, but got no answer. Some times we waited for other drivers with problems, but sadly not this time I'm sorry mate, once we get into the cars we can't solve such problems anymore. We normally restart when someone disconnects during the warmup or when entering the race, not when someone fails to join the grid. We did not realize it was due to a technical problem and believed you were starting from the pits (Which is what normally happens if you join late). Only when the race was underway did we realize you were out and unable to start. As for Jason Fitch, the reason we restarted for him is that he had warned he was arriving short in time, and kept all thetime messaging us about his status. When we went to race session he was trying to connect but found it locked for just some seconds. He messaged Juha on TS and we restarted for him. So to all: if you are on TS we will have an easier time getting know what is going on.
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Post by Jacob Fredriksson on Jan 12, 2020 21:08:58 GMT
Holy hell, never ever did I think that my Mongoose could be that competitive. What a car! Over the moon with this result. Full race report to come tomorrow, here's then a photo of the cool-down lap.
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Post by Raul Jereb on Jan 12, 2020 21:09:48 GMT
First of all, thanks to mr. Alberto and mr. Sabre for setup help. It gave me a lot of confidence..
Nice race after all.. thank you all.
I dont like the rule that allows racing under yellow until start/finish line though. Firs caution reaction on yellows should be to lift off and be carefull becose of crashed car parts and (mainly) big crowd at one place (becose its mostly on restarts).. pushing as nothing happend could only make it worse.. It could be something that will come arround to our heads..
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Post by Brian Janik on Jan 12, 2020 21:22:40 GMT
Made it to last lap without a hint of damage But then Alberto started a chain of events by giving me squeeze at last restart, in an effort not to hit him or the pit wall I eased off, then Adam taking proper line and speed came into corner spun me. Top 4 no more pissed off(not to finish), but hard to lay blame at anyone(racing incident). Garbage happens(life goes on). Good drive Jaques. And many more. Nowhere near the carnage I predicted
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Post by Jason White on Jan 12, 2020 21:24:52 GMT
I totally screwed up on fuel strategy, which killed my chance to score points. I am, however, happy to finish, considering I've been feeling out of sorts all week and am by no means 100% sharp right now. Looking forward to Ontario.
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Post by Jason White on Jan 12, 2020 21:35:56 GMT
Points are up; Results will be posted tomorrow, as some small edits are required.
In the meantime, if anyone has an incident they wish to report to the admins, may we direct your attention to the Protest button on the top of the forum; this takes you to the official ISO protest form.
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Post by Jukka Maattanen on Jan 12, 2020 21:39:27 GMT
Apart from taking on too much fuel in the pits after doing my fuel calculations arseways, having nowhere to go at a late-race restart and then having a bit of a moment on the backstraight, it was great! For the first 20 or 30 laps my heart was beating like a mother, I thought I was gonna die
Looking forward to the next one!
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Post by David Jundt on Jan 12, 2020 21:43:43 GMT
Oh, that's what it was... well, sucks for Cesar Thought that was another pit issue like at Zandvoort... Maybe I get to drive to the end the next time I try and not silly cause my car to disintegrate.
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Post by Dana Schurer on Jan 13, 2020 1:59:45 GMT
First, apologies to Jukka for the tap on the lap ~130 restart when I got a little sideways on the front stretch. Otherwise, my main takeaway for the day is gratitude toward the admins for this series. I've been away from simracing for most of the last two years dealing with rising mental health issues but the return of full-season USAC racing is just what I needed to properly recommit now that I'm back in the neighborhood of functional. As for the race, I knew from the stats that I'd qualify well but was pleasantly surprised to have ended in the top 5 considering how much trouble I had getting my head around racing an understeery Eagle for the first time since 2015's Indy. It was definitely a survival race with a setup that provided decent laptimes but ultimately too much drag to make moves, even just getting through traffic. Looking forward to getting into a tail-happy McLaren for the remaining rounds, for sure.
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Post by Alberto Ibanez on Jan 13, 2020 8:13:37 GMT
I know I speak on behalf of everyone when I say that we are delighted to have you back to defend your title Dana Discord and Teamspeak are usually quite active, if you ever feel like venting off, simply having fun, talk about setups or arrange testing sessions, be sure to drop by
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Post by Richard Coxon on Jan 13, 2020 9:37:42 GMT
All results and the replay are now up THIS thread
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Post by Alberto Ibanez on Jan 13, 2020 12:40:28 GMT
I dont like the rule that allows racing under yellow until start/finish line though. Firs caution reaction on yellows should be to lift off and be carefull becose of crashed car parts and (mainly) big crowd at one place (becose its mostly on restarts).. pushing as nothing happend could only make it worse.. It could be something that will come arround to our heads.. I hear you Raul, its logical to think so. The main reason why we went for this "race to the line" option is because that helps preventing the game giving stupid penalties to people and getting confused about the race order. We have taken as many rules away from the game's control as we could, and indeed nobody got any penalty during this race and it all went smooth. Now, in small tracks like Phoenix where space is tight it might indeed be a bit hairy to race to the line with an accident on track, but it normally is not so much of a problem in the big speedways where you have lots of room. We will keep things as they are for Ontario, but we are certainly not frozen and closed to re-evaluating the rule if it becomes evident that it will be better to freeze order.
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Post by Bruno Chacon on Jan 13, 2020 12:47:42 GMT
I dont like the rule that allows racing under yellow until start/finish line though. Firs caution reaction on yellows should be to lift off and be carefull becose of crashed car parts and (mainly) big crowd at one place (becose its mostly on restarts).. pushing as nothing happend could only make it worse.. It could be something that will come arround to our heads.. I hear you Raul, its logical to think so. The main reason why we went for this "race to the line" option is because that helps preventing the game giving stupid penalties to people and getting confused about the race order. We have taken as many rules away from the game's control as we could, and indeed nobody got any penalty during this race and it all went smooth. Now, in small tracks like Phoenix where space is tight it might indeed be a bit hairy to race to the line with an accident on track, but it normally is not so much of a problem in the big speedways where you have lots of room. We will keep things as they are for Ontario, but we are certainly not frozen and closed to re-evaluating the rule if it becomes evident that it will be better to freeze order. Like Raul, I was also harmed by this rule and even crashed in the back by a car that overtook Raul, Mick Chapman until it hit the back of my car damaging the suspension and pushing me off the track causing me to lose 3 positions.
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Post by Jacob Fredriksson on Jan 13, 2020 12:51:33 GMT
Is there a "gentlemen's agreement" then? When the caution light comes on, please don't pass each other?
Something else that came up: we had 10 cautions for a 150 lap race. That's excessive. If you cause 3 cautions, maybe you should park it? Not pointing any fingers, but there were a lot of crashes still.
Anyway, as I said earlier, I never ever imagined the Mongoose being that competitive. When I got that car I was dead certain it would be a desperate backmarker, a la Dale Coyne 1988. How wrong I was. I must have found something in the setup that made it much more dependable than the other cars, and the Foyt engine was vastly superior than the Offy on the restarts. I had one moment near the end of the race where I lost two positions, but otherwise the car gave me no vices at all.
However though, track position was king, and the misunderstood the timing for my pitstop. Pitting one lap later than the others dropped me 5 positions, and catching Jaques on a clear track was a task too much.
At least, very glad to have made the most of what I thought was a hopeless situation; 4th in qualifying, taking the lead on the track, and then fighting myself back to 2nd place at the finish. Great fun!
Hoping to make the rest of the races, but I shouldn't commit myself yet. When my work schedule is finished for the summer in April, I should know whether I should sign up for the whole season.
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Post by Alberto Ibanez on Jan 13, 2020 14:32:26 GMT
Is there a "gentlemen's agreement" then? When the caution light comes on, please don't pass each other? Something else that came up: we had 10 cautions for a 150 lap race. That's excessive. If you cause 3 cautions, maybe you should park it? Not pointing any fingers, but there were a lot of crashes still. I have been watching the replay, and most problems come from the fact that some people were not aware of the race to the flag rule and slowed down, sometimes instinctively, so you got some cars going quick and others slowing down. I myself got the wallet stolen at the first yellow because I had forgotten about the rule and cruised to the s/f line We can make the rule even if the game does not enforce it yes, but we wanted initially to have as little rules and complexity as possible. I also do not want to make things confusing changing rules every race, so let's do the next event like this and then we will see if it is worth returning to the frozen order. Or just use in the short tracks. Or whatever. But let's not hurry. Regarding the crashes: In AMS we have a real turbo and that thing is dangerous as these cars were in real life. We need some more seat time, and this small track wasn't the ideal place to start, but Ontario should be nearly the opposite in terms of easiness of controlling the car. Oh and regarding the Mongoose: The cars are closer together in 74 than they were in 73 thanks to the boost limits and smaller wings. The Mongoose is equipped with the powerful Foyt engine and has a decent chassis, it was outdated mostly in aerodynamics, but on short tracks with a good driver you bet it has options. Don't count with it being on top at Ontario or Michigan though.
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Post by Brian Janik on Jan 13, 2020 14:40:31 GMT
I hear you Raul, its logical to think so. The main reason why we went for this "race to the line" option is because that helps preventing the game giving stupid penalties to people and getting confused about the race order. We have taken as many rules away from the game's control as we could, and indeed nobody got any penalty during this race and it all went smooth. Now, in small tracks like Phoenix where space is tight it might indeed be a bit hairy to race to the line with an accident on track, but it normally is not so much of a problem in the big speedways where you have lots of room. We will keep things as they are for Ontario, but we are certainly not frozen and closed to re-evaluating the rule if it becomes evident that it will be better to freeze order. Like Raul, I was also harmed by this rule and even crashed in the back by a car that overtook Raul, Mick Chapman until it hit the back of my car damaging the suspension and pushing me off the track causing me to lose 3 positions. I was also beat badly to the line by Jukka at first yellow, first impulse was to say WTF?! But then I remember Reading the RULES posted Dec 3 2019 So it was a Smart good move by Jukka, and I adapted from there. Best plan for next races,... be ready I thought it added a element of intensity and helped reduce the amount of snooze laps by 10 Also historically accurate? FULL COURSE YELLOW PROCEDURE
When a yellow flag is thrown, you can race till the start/finish line (Race to the flag). The order behind the safety car will be the same as the drivers crossed the line for the first time after the caution was issued.
When the Safety Car is out, you must keep a normal pace until you reach the line of cars behind the SC. Otherwise you'll get a penalty. Same when you exit the pitlane under yellow, you have to be quick enough to rejoin the SC.
The pits are open all the time
On restarts, all cars must be no more than two car lengths apart, and single file. You don't have to be right behind the car in front, staggered formation is allowed for safety reasons, but respect always the distance (Never side by side). Failure to observe this rule during the race could result in a post-race penalty.
When the Yellow comes out, a Yellow Flag will flash on your screen. That flag will continue to flash until you have TAKEN the yellow. Once you have taken the yellow flag, it will stop flashing and will be a Solid Flag. So if you are in the middle of turns 3&4 when the Caution is called and cross the start finish line, if the flag on your screen is still flashing, then you need to continue on around the track before YOU are actually under yellow. Which also means you get to pass the Safety Car.
/!\ The leader must be careful to not overtake the Safety Car when the latter is exiting the pitlane. /!\
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Post by Alberto Ibanez on Jan 13, 2020 15:19:45 GMT
That reminds me, one thing I forgot to say. It was my fault, but an older version of the track GDB slipped by and for that reason we had 4 caution laps plus 2 random ones. I had originally planned to have 1 + 2 random ones. That would have made the yellows go through way faster and the race less stressing. Sorry! Next track will have the correct settings.
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Post by Jukka Maattanen on Jan 13, 2020 16:27:35 GMT
That reminds me, one thing I forgot to say. It was my fault, but an older version of the track GDB slipped by and for that reason we had 4 caution laps plus 2 random ones. I had originally planned to have 1 + 2 random ones. That would have made the yellows go through way faster and the race less stressing. Sorry! Next track will have the correct settings. I wonder if it's such a bad thing, everyone having enough time to make their pitstops and line up for the restart. Could even be that longer cautions prevent people getting random penalties
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Post by Alberto Ibanez on Jan 13, 2020 17:08:54 GMT
Maybe, though we have disabled most penalties and right now you have to be a real dick to get one from the game But strategy wise, on short tracks you can have more caution laps as they are quick, on large ones with 1 lap you can actually solve your pitstop. The additional random laps are what makes it interesting, a short caution might hurt you if you pit, a long one not, making it a gamble is what adds fun
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