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Post by Jules Bouchard on May 30, 2021 19:36:01 GMT
Qualy was a disaster. I couldn't get a clean lap in thanks to almost constant stuttering. No one was leaving or joining. It was fine in the race though...  I had a great start from 18th to 9th once I was on the back straight. Faster cars soon passed though. Like Grant, I am a bit confused with the engines. I was more gentle with it than in the other races I've finished and still it gave up. edit: Forgot to add but around lap 8, AMS decided to minimize itself when I was just coming onto the front straight. Not sure how I got away with no damage from that. |
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Post by Richard Coxon on May 30, 2021 20:11:22 GMT
Well done Juha, thoroughly deserved. About time though   |
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Post by Michael Drechsler on May 30, 2021 20:16:27 GMT
12th in the end, but ... dunno, that was kind of weird. Testing before qualy, the balance was fine, as I had worked to the whole week. Did a 1:11 on Super Softs in a Q sim run. Then the server switches to the race weekend, and the balance is completely gone, the car understeering like hell, missing over half a second to what I did in practice.
Same in the warm up session, my setup, which was nice in testing, allowing me to place the car where I want it with minimal throttle modulations suddenly understeered like stupid and the front tire temps completely running away. Had to put in some serious setup changes, both aero and suspension to get the car back on track, but it still wasn't the way I had it before. Lap times reflected that, while it was constantly progressing before, always going a little faster lap by lap, now I stood there, set a time, and the laps following up were always a bit slower. 30 laps in, the balance came back a bit, but lap times were still way to slow. What probably didn't help was me carrying around to much drag, and being very conservative on the engine again. For most time, I ran with 1.4 bar boost, anything more would push oil temps over the dreaded 110 degrees, even though constantly short shifting. I had some 30 litres fuel left, go figure...
...anyways, my start was a bit slow (too little throttle, too fast with the clutch), I got unscathed through that T1 melee, though it was a little tight to be really comforable. I settled to my pace, not very high, as you may have gathered, slowly moved up as others had their own troubles, had a few moments in traffic, and went on. Two laps down to my teammate, five laps ahead of the car behind me, so pretty much a very lonely race for me, again. I got it home and I wasn't last, that is okay, and I like the track, it has a nice flow and natural rhythm, but I'm still a bit inconclusive as to how much I can actually ask of the engine. I'm always worried to blow it up if I rev up more or crank up the boost...
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Post by Richard Wilks on May 30, 2021 20:25:05 GMT
I dont know what happened in various moments of the race, too many to count even. I was slow on the fastest corners of the track, but i was running less wing than everybody and i guess that made for many hairy moments, so apologies if i contributed to any of the incidents.
Unfortunally all that, and a lengthy pitstop prevented me from fighting with my teamate at least for the podium, because i think Juha was long gone on this one, congratulations once again!
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Post by Juha Bos on May 30, 2021 20:41:26 GMT
Well done Juha, thoroughly deserved. About time though Thanks mate! In which decade did we win the Kyalami 1000? Seems like a lifetime ago.  |
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Post by Anders Nilsson on May 30, 2021 20:54:36 GMT
Wd Juha .. About time u and the car shows its true pace well desirved grats !!
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Post by David Sabre on May 30, 2021 21:01:58 GMT
Congratulations Juha. My race was poor yet again. Qualified 2 seconds away from my fastest practice time, I've no idea why. I was moved 3 places up the grid  and a good start I was running in 10th or 11th place. I was feeling comfortable with the car but after Bruno overtook me I went into a corner too fast and lost the rear and spun into the barriers, race over. Thanks for the broadcast  . |
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Post by Juha Bos on May 30, 2021 21:43:25 GMT
So today it's just over 5 years I first raced with this group of people, albeit at another league. It was the 1973 Indy 500, and I won... the Jigger Award for disconnecting when joining the grid. That was probably a sign of things to come. In those five years, I've led races, but never when it mattered. My only overall win came in 2019 when I shared a Porsche 956 with Richard Coxon to win the 1983 Kyalami 1000 km, but Richard put it on pole and crossed the line, and it wasn't a solo drive. I was beginning to wonder if it was ever going to happen. I came within 2 seconds of winning F1 1991 at Hockenheim after being punted off twice when having the fastest car on track by far, I spun out of a CanAm race at Donnybrooke and got nudged out of the way on the final turn at Laguna Seca, I led two Indy 500's which both ended in accidents, I was heading the Bathurst 1000 before bending every panel on the car, I even managed to lead an ASTCC race before FWD God Jonatan proved his metal, and then there was F1 at Rio this year where my impatience got the better of me. Leading a race wasn’t the problem. Remaining there was. Now Paul Ricard doesn't really inspire me, but when I realised that the McLaren could run the entire race at full boost and maintain the pace of the opposition, I realised I was in with a chance. Sure, qualifying was the usual issue and I'd have to find a way through to the front, so I was hoping to make it into the points and maybe some overstressed engines could "help" me on that. I only settled on the setup at 19h58. At the very last moment, I decided to stick on as much front wing as in qualifying, rather than go for the lower wings I'd initially planned on. I did one lap, liked it, and stuck with it. Other than that, the car was comfortable to drive. Starting 12th, with my teammate Bruno in 14th, I was in 8th by the end of lap 1 after avoiding a few parked cars. By lap 4, I was in 6th, goal achieved. Alberto noticed it on the broadcast, "Never discount Juha Bos". pretty visionary comment really. I noticed I was quicker than the opposition, except for Grant, but I was sticking to my plan. I kept to the revs I intended, I used the fuel I had foreseen, taking care of the tyres on the heavy car, all was going to plan. Vadim and Wilks were next in line, and soon I was in 4th before the first quarter of the race with Grant, David and Tim ahead. So far so good.
I got closer to the duo ahead, and decided to go for the undercut on lap 38, hoping that my pit crew would finally show some motivation. And motivated they were, changing all 4 tyres in 10 seconds for once, allowing me to almost close the gap to David and Tim. Grant dropped out at halfway and I realised there was a distant possibility of maybe eventually coming out on top... so out went the caution and the rev limit. I've had enough second and third places, I wanted first. 10.500 became 11.000, braking a bit later, cornering faster without overdoing it, and the gap closed. By lap 45, second place was mine, and on lap 55 I finally conquered the Benetton fortress, which ended up with David spinning. I then lowered the rhythm, saving fuel and tyres, waiting for David's comeback. He did come back, but I had fuel in hand so I made sure the gap was just big enough for him no to be able to outdrag me on the back straight. David then dropped his pace, and so did I. After allowing myself to rev it more earlier in the race, I now babied it to the finish. My lead was big enough, no need to push so the final laps were just about 5 seconds off the pace, praying the engine wouldn't die and the brakes wouldn't fail on me like they did at Detroit. Or a disco. A misunderstanding with lapped drivers. Unplanned Windows updates. Power black out. Server discounting me 5 laps. Surely something would go wrong. After 5 years of trying, surely this wouldn't be the day either.  Nothing failed though, not even the driver the usual Achilles heel. No accidents, no spins, one missed shift in 80 laps, and finally the McLaren was where it should be: on the top step of the podium. Bruno completed the job by finishing 5th, raising us to 3rd in the constructors standings. I'm very happy my setups can get him into the points regularly now.
It may not be a great car in qualifying, but when everything works out as planned it's a great machine to have. I'll be driving it at Brands Hatch, but there's a fairly big chance I will not be available for Hockenheim, rather unfortunate as that's when the qualifying engine finally makes an appearance, so someone else can get a taste of it. I'm sure the usual Osella guns for hire will be very interested in obtaining that seat. If you're nice, I might even thrown in some advice. Needless to say, I'm over the moon with this. It's so sweet when it all finally comes together after so many attempts, and even more when it required overtaking 10 people, not just waiting for them to drop out. I hope it won't take me another 3 years to win another one, but it's a satisfying thought to know I can do it. Thanks to Richard Wilks for the setup advice earlier this year, Bruno Chacon for doing long runs in testing to ensure whatever I come up with actually works (he told me to use bigger brake ducts at Detroit, I didn't listen...) and Richard Coxon for years of nagging on my driving abilities to motivate me - it finally happened, I didn't falter. As the saying goes, even a stopped clock is right twice a day. See you all at Brands Hatch soon. I don't really like the track, but I didn't like this one either so I might actually do something useful there as well.
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Post by Bruno Pagiola on May 30, 2021 21:57:28 GMT
I had a good start but someone hit me at the first chicane and I lost the front wing and I struggled to take the car at the Pits even in first lap to put another wing. I rolled-out the pits ahead the first group and instead I did the possible that I could to stay out the way I'm so sorry to Gabriele, ruined his race. But the car had a good performance, I catch Lacina, Drechsler and Rocha positions and I approached Johnathan. But one more time the engine expired, but I took that I could, and hope more luck to Brands Hatch. Gongrats to Juha for his 1st win.
About other question, I was badged as 20th at the grid but I believed that I started in another position. I started ahead a McLaren (Bruno Chacon) car, and I'm sure that he qualified ahead. Can be a position mark mistake at .AIW files (my opinion).
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Post by Brian Janik on May 31, 2021 7:31:40 GMT
Had misplaced car just in front of me on grid  Took front and rear damage in the middle of the lap 1 turn 1 fiasco, race ruined  Made too many frazzled driving errors to count in next 15 laps, race ruined some more  Car overheats more than its driver, lucky and cool to finish  I had a good start but someone hit me at the first chicane and I lost the front wing and I struggled to take the car at the Pits even in first lap to put another wing. About other question, I was badged as 20th at the grid but I believed that I started in another position. I started ahead a McLaren (Bruno Chacon) car, and I'm sure that he qualified ahead. Can be a position mark mistake at .AIW files (my opinion). Someone hit you, your front wing hit my back end, because I had to park my car trying to not to hit Sabre, who was trying not to hit Miller. It was a long domino effect of ruined races. bummer you mean this? Yes, it's a small AIW mistake. It happens sometimes  |
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Post by Tim Hille on May 31, 2021 14:42:40 GMT
I don't know what happened to my grid slot but just like Brians screenshot shows there was something wrong with it (Just a small note, you don't need to slowly reverse into me if something like this happens, I can see a red box on grey pavement and I am also able to park the car in such a box)
My race was what I asked for all season long, I kept the car together (more or less) and saw the chequered flag
I am definitely happy about my best ISO result so far 
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2021 15:27:28 GMT
I don't know what happened to my grid slot but just like Brians screenshot shows there was something wrong with it (Just a small note, you don't need to slowly reverse into me if something like this happens, I can see a red box on grey pavement and I am also able to park the car in such a box)
My race was what I asked for all season long, I kept the car together (more or less) and saw the chequered flag
I am definitely happy about my best ISO result so far
I kept getting a message I was not sloted right. Had nothing to do with you. |
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Post by Tim Hille on May 31, 2021 16:23:07 GMT
I kept getting a message I was not sloted right. Had nothing to do with you. Ah alright, you scared everything out of me in that situation because I was scared of losing my wing |
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Post by Bruno Chacon on May 31, 2021 16:58:26 GMT
Another excellent race for the McLaren Team.
Juha and I worked together on the settings and made important adjustments suitable for each other's different riding styles.
I confess that I was frustrated in not being able to take advantage of the final adjustments achieved by Juha, the race configuration was very fast, faster than I could take advantage of due to physical limitations, because it is one thing to go fast and another thing to go to the limit.
Complicated start of the race, Pagiola's car was very close and the first gear ratio was very long, I lost 4 or 5 positions at the start, because I waited for Pagiola to leave before doing the same.
Behold, T1 arrives with Miller crossed the track, cars crashing and swerving everywhere and, very carefully, I managed to avoid contacts and get out of the situation unscathed.
I continued in search of a safe pace throughout the race, trying to drive with the least possible effort, with a car very well balanced and much faster, being difficult to keep the urge to go stronger. The car would do it without much effort, as I was holding intense pain and I decided not to force myself to be able to finish the race.
It was not a dreary race, on the contrary. I managed to pass a few cars ahead, a systematic pursuit of Mr. Riddall and with Mr. Thim always threatening in pursuit.
As always, Mr. Riddall was a gentleman and switched places with me, starting to chase me and it was not easy to stay focused amid pain in my arms and move at a safe pace.
A brilliant and persevering victory for Juha, he kept his cool and strategy. We now have a winning car!
Congratulations to the transmission team for the beautiful work you are presenting, always rich in details that only add to the huge flow of technical information and about the drivers in the races.
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Post by François Remmen on May 31, 2021 17:29:13 GMT
WD Juha
p9 without a single fight , pretty boring but at least i finished.
thanks Gab for the great setup!
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2021 18:01:26 GMT
I kept getting a message I was not sloted right. Had nothing to do with you. Ah alright, you scared everything out of me in that situation because I was scared of losing my wing I had a code brown too...believe me...  |
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Post by Grant Riddall on Jun 1, 2021 9:58:39 GMT
Well done Juha, good to see you win My race was falling straight into my hands but just wasnt to be... i worked very, very hard on a race setup throughout the two week build up. i could manage 11.4's with full tank and making fuel and thats exactly what i did in the race. Had a slight heart attack into T1 seeing a Williams come in a bit too hot but think Vadim caught the brunt of it. after that i just paced myself and looked after my engine and tires. Around lap 32 i noticed i had a major loss of power, i was so confused and even checked my boost settings and my accelerator gauge to make sure nothing was wrong and once i knew it was all fine my heart just sank... i knew it was only a matter of time till it went pop... Still a hard pill to swallow. i used the same boost setting throughout the race, only upped it once into T1 lap 1. engine revvs always below 11000rpm, and making decent fuel each lap. But the engine gods say no so got to suck it up and move on! Well done Juha, was good to see you win this and was great to see you take the McLaren to the top! awesome drive!! Thanks for the broadcast, was amazing to watch. Also the track looked stunning i thought. Onto on of my top 3 favourite tracks now and i cannot wait!! Home GP |
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Post by Ray Riddall on Jun 1, 2021 20:13:40 GMT
Overal not a bad event for me. managing a 6th place and a points finish for our team. Cant help feel slightly gutted still for Grant, by all rights it should be me blowing engines, I use shorter gears higher revs, I miss my gears loads of times I'm more aggressive over all than him, we do hundreds of laps on and off line without a murmur then all of the sudden bang on race night for Grant whos being kinder to the car.
The race , one of my highest qualy results, managed to get through T1 ok ,then into fuel saving , I new there was haft a dozen cars that would come by me , so after they did I settled down to racing my normal foe , I was on mediums which surprisingly fell off around lap 37, pitted and started chasing down Bruno towards the end but ran out of laps and fuel.
Well done Juha for a great race win.
Onto Brands where I hope I have a lot more luck than jacques laffite did.
p.s anyone using a hud that shows engine wear/fatigue?
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Post by Brian Janik on Jun 1, 2021 20:55:54 GMT
Onto Brands where I hope I have a lot more luck than jacques laffite did. p.s anyone using a hud that shows engine wear/fatigue? For sure Ray, hopefully not your last ever race! I tried to find a HUD w/engine wear when we first switched to AMS, but was unsuccessful. ultimately decided it was more realistic for our historic stuff to be blind to the impending doom. Until it happens!!!! lol It's the worst, almost like a disco!  Engine files do have a random lifetime number, so it doesnt always make sense when they give up. Although some motors definitely more reliable than others. I feel your pain Grant, I was pissed about Monaco for like a month. But after seeing last couple rounds with you and Anders and Jaques and many more going up in smoke, I now realize it isn't just a Brabham problem, or necessarily from excessive abuse. I guess it makes more unpredictable races, but Hopefully it doesnt steal many more big results |
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Post by Michael Drechsler on Jun 1, 2021 22:33:45 GMT
In practice, I had an engine that was foul from the moment I left the garage, smoking and 10 kph short of my already ridìculous 'top' speed.
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Post by Alberto Ibanez on Jun 2, 2021 7:00:37 GMT
Engine files do have a random lifetime number, so it doesnt always make sense when they give up. Although some motors definitely more reliable than others. I feel your pain Grant, I was pissed about Monaco for like a month. But after seeing last couple rounds with you and Anders and Jaques and many more going up in smoke, I now realize it isn't just a Brabham problem, or necessarily from excessive abuse. I guess it makes more unpredictable races, but Hopefully it doesnt steal many more big results Also remember that there are no mechanical failures in the game except engine and brakes, so we have to include there all the other sources that caused retirements in real life, like electric or gearbox problems. That makes the engines seem more fragile than they really are. |
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Post by Bruno Pagiola on Jun 2, 2021 13:16:16 GMT
In practice, I had an engine that was foul from the moment I left the garage, smoking and 10 kph short of my already ridìculous 'top' speed. Welcome to Minardi, man About the Engines, I changed my mind. In 8 races I had only one early blow in Canada (22nd lap), excepting Imola where I crashed, I lasted the engine over than 60 laps. Even getting the checkered flag (Rio, Jerez, Spa or Detroit where I blew at last lap) or running over 60 laps as Monaco or Paul Ricard. It's possible managing a safe drive for keeping the engine reliable but it's not warranty that you will last at finish. I knew several best cars than mine which blow much times and early than MM... |
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Post by Michael Drechsler on Jun 2, 2021 14:00:38 GMT
In practice, I had an engine that was foul from the moment I left the garage, smoking and 10 kph short of my already ridìculous 'top' speed. Welcome to Minardi, man LOL, I already had the thougt I changed a disaster for a catastrophe, but at least I no longer have to participate in that rat race of fetching a seat... ...the Minardi feels a bit more nimble, more racecar-like than the Osella, which is truly heavy-handed, but I still have to work a bit on it to get behind its potential, but I don't see a huge difference in potential and reliability between these two italian stall... ridglings. I'll gonna miss the Alfa's V8-sound, though. |
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Post by Bruno Pagiola on Jun 2, 2021 16:04:39 GMT
I didn't drove to Osella, but I suppose that is poor than Minardi or Zakspeeds, about the power I know it's weaker than MM. In qualify if you find the perfect setup you can battle with Arrows, Lola/Haas or even Brabham, but no much more than 20th position. At race, you can preserve the engine using low turbo pressure and avoiding gear missings. It will be a better car than Osella or AGS one-off cars.
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Post by Jonatan Acerclinth on Jun 2, 2021 16:35:48 GMT
Well, for me, I was in the wrong mind-set even before the event. Thanks to Anders and Richard C, I were able to eek some performance out of the Osella for this round but the driver piloting the car was still just as bad at going around the track as before... Made 2 massive mistakes, of which one caused me to have to pit for repairs, the other one I somehow got away with some slightly best suspension. An 11th in the Osella I'll take around it's second weakest track, I'm almost entirely possitive Brands will be worse after initial testing. It is not nice handling around the track (since I need to run lower wings in an attempt to keep up with the other machinery) and, since the engine produces so little power, you need to drive it like a Mini, always on the throttle to coax pace out of it. I'll be amazed if I manage to keep the engine going for the full distance in 2 weeks time, but I'll have a good deal more fun possibly retiring from that event compared to driving around Le Castellet |
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and a good start I was running in 10th or 11th place. I was feeling comfortable with the car but after Bruno overtook me I went into a corner too fast and lost the rear and spun into the barriers, race over.
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