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Post by Richard Wilks on Jun 12, 2022 20:17:53 GMT
I have to apologize to Ray Riddall. I dont know how, but we tangled, and that ruined his race, for which i am sorry regardless.
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Post by Richard Coxon on Jun 13, 2022 9:36:55 GMT
Another fun race, had some great battles with David Jaques and Thiago at the beginning, was gutted to see you both affected by the "Big one". I feel our battle would have been a race long one, on that note i've just been watching the broadcast and i want to apologise to Jaques, there was a couple of times i got very close to you and it could of ended differently. So apologies for that one, i didn't realise we was so close. Decided to pit under the second yellow, was thinking the decision would be the correct one, but it turned out to the be the wrong one in hindsight, so well done to Vadim, you make the correct call by staying out and got the job done. A huge congrats! You drove very well. Thankyou to both Jonatan and Ryan, great job guys. You can really tell you are friends outside of the booth as it shows in the quality of the commentary. You both just flowed brilliantly. Great job  Well done to all finishers, that was a tough one. |
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Post by Petr Hlavac on Jun 14, 2022 14:58:04 GMT
There were two moments when this race was a lot of fun for me - start and the first restart. Moving up from P20 to P8 felt nice 🙂 Unfortunately, I missed my box during the first stop and had to go through pit lane. And completing that pit stop one lap later was actually even worse mistake, as it resulted into a splash'n'go with 10 laps to go. Other than that, it was a decent drive. However, I thought it was more of a fuel saving exercise, rather than a race. The car must be driven way below its limit to make those fuel numbers. Isn't the fuel limit a bit too draconian?
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Post by Richard Wilks on Jun 14, 2022 15:03:49 GMT
There were two moments when this race was a lot of fun for me - start and the first restart. Moving up from P20 to P8 felt nice 🙂 Unfortunately, I missed my box during the first stop and had to go through pit lane. And completing that pit stop one lap later was actually even worse mistake, as it resulted into a splash'n'go with 10 laps to go. Other than that, it was a decent drive. However, I thought it was more of a fuel saving exercise, rather than a race. The car must be driven way below its limit to make those fuel numbers. Isn't the fuel limit a bit too draconian? I can answer that. It was calculated based on the real numbers that they mention back in the day, as well as the difference in laptimes between fast and slow pace. The fuel limit for the race is the actual real fuel limit. If you watch the broadcasts, specially when there were no yellows (long beach 1989 is a very good example) they were really tight on fuel, short shifting and coming down on the boost to even make the race. It was very much like F1 at the time, but the indycar broadcasts tended to not focus so much on this, despite for example in that Long Beach race, Al Jr and Andretti clearly crawling along. |
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Post by David Jaques on Jun 16, 2022 2:44:42 GMT
Another fun race, had some great battles with David Jaques and Thiago at the beginning, was gutted to see you both affected by the "Big one". I feel our battle would have been a race long one, on that note i've just been watching the broadcast and i want to apologise to Jaques, there was a couple of times i got very close to you and it could of ended differently. So apologies for that one, i didn't realise we was so close. Decided to pit under the second yellow, was thinking the decision would be the correct one, but it turned out to the be the wrong one in hindsight, so well done to Vadim, you make the correct call by staying out and got the job done. A huge congrats! You drove very well. Thankyou to both Jonatan and Ryan, great job guys. You can really tell you are friends outside of the booth as it shows in the quality of the commentary. You both just flowed brilliantly. Great job  Well done to all finishers, that was a tough one.
no side by side racing that i thought was too close, we can usually race through the corner and out the other side. sorry for racing you at all being a lap down, but i was doing everything i could to be in position to get the lap back if another caution came out.
the only scary moments was avoiding lift and coast of others. hard to judge, many different approaches being used. i get what wilks is saying, but highly doubt they were ever lift and coasting at a short oval, on trimmed out wings, with the boost down the entire race. do we really need it to stick to the "real numbers"? why not adjust fuel based on how the mod/engine/cars are, make it so fuel management is still a thing, but this race was extremely tight. lift and coasting to the level that some were is unnecessarily dangerous
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Post by Alberto Ibanez on Jun 16, 2022 7:26:49 GMT
The main difference is the number of yellows we get at some races vs real life. At Long Beach there were no yellows in real life and it was very tight to make the fuel. At Milwaukee there were 4 yellows in real life and they had not so many issues. The physics are thus as close to real life as it gets, it's the number of yellows what is different, but then again that is in itself a random factor both here and in real life. If at Milwaukee they had had only 2 yellows in real life, they would have had to save fuel same as us.
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Post by Richard Wilks on Jun 16, 2022 12:44:43 GMT
no side by side racing that i thought was too close, we can usually race through the corner and out the other side. sorry for racing you at all being a lap down, but i was doing everything i could to be in position to get the lap back if another caution came out.
the only scary moments was avoiding lift and coast of others. hard to judge, many different approaches being used. i get what wilks is saying, but highly doubt they were ever lift and coasting at a short oval, on trimmed out wings, with the boost down the entire race. do we really need it to stick to the "real numbers"? why not adjust fuel based on how the mod/engine/cars are, make it so fuel management is still a thing, but this race was extremely tight. lift and coasting to the level that some were is unnecessarily dangerous
If you think this one was tight, you wait until we race at Toronto for example  And i disagree, they did lift on OVals, or just used lower boost/mixture. You can even hear on the onboards, and when the commentators say they were flatout on qualy, but nowhere near that in the race. They talk about fuel mileage all the time, even well into the 90s. |
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Post by Michael Drechsler on Jun 16, 2022 17:37:33 GMT
Last year at Texas (I think), it was thanks to a yellow and being a lap down I made it the finish. All the time on lowest boost, ridiculous long gearing and not even flooring the pedal. Thath's when you start questioning what you are doing here...
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Post by Ryan Walker on Jun 17, 2022 18:02:18 GMT
Another fun race, had some great battles with David Jaques and Thiago at the beginning, was gutted to see you both affected by the "Big one". I feel our battle would have been a race long one, on that note i've just been watching the broadcast and i want to apologise to Jaques, there was a couple of times i got very close to you and it could of ended differently. So apologies for that one, i didn't realise we was so close. Decided to pit under the second yellow, was thinking the decision would be the correct one, but it turned out to the be the wrong one in hindsight, so well done to Vadim, you make the correct call by staying out and got the job done. A huge congrats! You drove very well. Thankyou to both Jonatan and Ryan, great job guys. You can really tell you are friends outside of the booth as it shows in the quality of the commentary. You both just flowed brilliantly. Great job Well done to all finishers, that was a tough one. Glad you enjoyed it and I am having fun calling the races. If anyone has any feedback, feel free to post on here or feel to PM me. |
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