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Post by Jason White on Jan 13, 2021 16:11:37 GMT
1990 March 90P-Porsche  |
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Post by Jason White on Jan 14, 2021 4:22:33 GMT
1991 Penske PC20  |
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Post by Alberto Ibañez on Jan 14, 2021 8:35:49 GMT
The title winning Williams FW14B from 1992. Active suspension, traction control, semi automatic gearbox and all gimmicks that were to be forbidden some years later.  |
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Post by Richard Coxon on Jan 14, 2021 8:48:54 GMT
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Post by Jacob Fredriksson on Jan 14, 2021 9:54:15 GMT
The Beast  |
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Post by Jacob Fredriksson on Jan 14, 2021 10:17:49 GMT
Was this the last F1 car with a an H-pattern gearbox to win a race, or was that the 92 car? I can't remember. |
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Post by Richard Coxon on Jan 14, 2021 10:30:45 GMT
92, by 93 Benetton had switched to Semi Automatic.
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Post by Jason White on Jan 14, 2021 11:30:41 GMT
1995 Reynard-Ford Cosworth XB  |
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Post by Michael Drechsler on Jan 14, 2021 11:46:03 GMT
 1996 Ferrari 310. Schumachers first full season ride with the reds, John Barnards last Ferrari and the first with a V10. |
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Post by Alberto Ibañez on Jan 14, 2021 11:49:19 GMT
Ahhh the era of the ugly high noses ... Penske arrived late to that party in 1998 when they tried to make an indycar like that. It was actually a pretty decent chassis but in 1998 and 1999 they were carrying the weak Mercedes engine, the bad Goodyear tires and Unser Jrs alcoholism didn't help much either.
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Post by Jacob Fredriksson on Jan 14, 2021 12:08:30 GMT
1997: not so much evolution, but regression: the first Dallara Indycar, for the new IRL series  |
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Post by Richard Coxon on Jan 14, 2021 12:09:59 GMT
Technically the 310B from 97 was a Barnard car too as he left in mid 97.
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Post by Alberto Ibañez on Jan 14, 2021 12:11:43 GMT
Well since I talked about the car before, here we go: Penske PC27 1998:  |
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Post by Richard Coxon on Jan 14, 2021 12:28:17 GMT
More like the 97 Tyrrell with a blade under the cone of the nose.
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Post by Jason White on Jan 15, 2021 18:01:39 GMT
1999 Prost AP02-Peugeot  |
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Post by Jason White on Jan 15, 2021 18:08:28 GMT
Once we hit 2021, we will reset and go back to 1900  |
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Post by Alberto Ibañez on Jan 15, 2021 18:17:45 GMT
But this time sportscars?
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Post by Jason White on Jan 15, 2021 18:22:25 GMT
But this time sportscars? Ok, but what year do we start at? What constitutes a sports car? |
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Post by Alberto Ibañez on Jan 15, 2021 18:27:07 GMT
In early days a sportscar was not a dedicated GP car, in that it had a road going version with headlights, fenders, etc. Bugatti had lots of those f.e. and many early Mercedes race cars were actually road cars adapted to racing.
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Post by Jacob Fredriksson on Jan 15, 2021 18:37:23 GMT
But this time sportscars? Ok, but what year do we start at? What constitutes a sports car? Closed wheels is a good distinction, no? Could include the great touring cars also |
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Post by Alberto Ibañez on Jan 15, 2021 18:37:56 GMT
TC is a different one, but we will get there too :-)
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Post by Michael Drechsler on Jan 15, 2021 19:32:45 GMT
Good question, today's thinking would probably distinct between single seaters and multi seat cars (though that is often a bit ... very theoretic), I may remind of some oddities like various german streamlined GP cars (both pre- and postwar) with full integrated fenders or the cyclefendered AFM Intertype I presented for 1947, that could both attend sportscar and F2 races, and I'm pretty sure it raced F2 races with both fenders and lights and without a persenning covering the passenger seat...
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Post by Jacob Fredriksson on Jan 15, 2021 22:23:57 GMT
TC is a different one, but we will get there too :-) but the distinction is difficult between sport cars and touring cars at times, what about the BMW CSL for example? anyway, here's the fastest car of all time:  |
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Post by Michael Drechsler on Jan 15, 2021 22:28:02 GMT
2000 Reynard 2KI. Let's drop some more Indycars, before they became an all spec...
Edit: LOL! Over here, we've got a saying: "Two idiots, one thought"  |
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Post by Alberto Ibañez on Jan 16, 2021 15:33:56 GMT
Ferrari F1 2001, in the hands of Michael Schumacher:  |
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