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Post by Ryan Walker on Jan 11, 2021 0:36:00 GMT
Just finished giving the mod a try and have to say I love it.
I was just wondering if there will be any base setups for road and oval posted and also if there is any basic setup guides for setting the cars up for ovals?
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Post by Alberto Ibanez on Jan 11, 2021 7:58:10 GMT
I wrote one long ago but it was mostly useful for CART98. The cars have default setups that more or less work, but I will try as in other seasons to provide a safe base setup for the races once the race thread is up. In any case, the single biggest thing you can use to make the car driveable and safe is always wings, even if you are slower first thing is to be safe. From there on you can try to gain speed, but there is no excuse for driving around an oval in a car that loses the rear easily.
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Post by Alberto Ibanez on Jan 12, 2021 9:13:34 GMT
This I wrote long ago for CART98, but much of it applies here also.
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Post by Jacob Fredriksson on Jan 12, 2021 9:43:11 GMT
Would you say there is anything in the setup that can be carried over from the 1974 cars? Tyre pressures, damper adjustments, spring rates, etc, any idea to copy-paste that?
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Post by Alberto Ibanez on Jan 12, 2021 10:02:48 GMT
I don't think so, just the general direction. But you can try to load the old setup and see if it gives you a good starting point.
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Post by Jacob Fredriksson on Jan 12, 2021 10:08:21 GMT
Since the fundamental setup philosopphy should be the same, that oughta work
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Post by Alberto Ibanez on Jan 12, 2021 10:23:55 GMT
The cars are not so different aero wise, the main difference is the tires and engine power on the Cosworth ones, so yes probably springs and dampers are on the ballpark to start with. But tire pressures, camber, wings, will need to be modified.
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Post by Ryan Walker on Jan 12, 2021 22:48:46 GMT
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Post by Ryan Walker on Jan 13, 2021 22:58:13 GMT
I found this setup guide which has helped me with learning oval setups. imgur.com/fZNHW1f
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Post by Alberto Ibanez on Jan 14, 2021 18:35:45 GMT
I found this setup guide which has helped me with learning oval setups. imgur.com/fZNHW1fThat is for stock cars, some of it works on our USAC cars but be careful.
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Post by Ryan Walker on Jan 14, 2021 18:48:20 GMT
I found this setup guide which has helped me with learning oval setups. imgur.com/fZNHW1fThat is for stock cars, some of it works on our USAC cars but be careful. I guess with oval setups they aren't symmetrical - (same on both sides basically)?
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Post by Jason White on Jan 14, 2021 19:10:10 GMT
Oval setups are not symmetrical. They are designed to help the car turn left. 
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Post by Martin Lacina on Jan 14, 2021 19:21:35 GMT
For oversteer understeer also works great to make springs diagonaly assymetrical. Left front, right rear stiffer. Right front, left rear softer. In Milwaukee this bring almost 3 tenth without any touch to aero. The baseline setup is symmetrical in terms of spring.
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Post by Jules Bouchard on Jan 18, 2021 20:20:18 GMT
For oversteer understeer also works great to make springs diagonaly assymetrical. Left front, right rear stiffer. Right front, left rear softer. In Milwaukee this bring almost 3 tenth without any touch to aero. The baseline setup is symmetrical in terms of spring. Thanks I'll try this. The cars I tested with the default set up were dangerously oversteering everywhere.
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Post by Martin Lacina on Jan 18, 2021 20:58:19 GMT
For oversteer understeer also works great to make springs diagonaly assymetrical. Left front, right rear stiffer. Right front, left rear softer. In Milwaukee this bring almost 3 tenth without any touch to aero. The baseline setup is symmetrical in terms of spring. Thanks I'll try this. The cars I tested with the default set up were dangerously oversteering everywhere. So try the opposite what i mentioned. LF,RR softer RF,LR stiffer. In any case most important is to be smooth. After that you will find out the car is not so oversteer but almost balanced.
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Post by Jason White on Jan 18, 2021 21:14:15 GMT
Also important to take into account -- as the fuel burns away, the car's nature will change. So you want to make sure you have the rear sway bar mapped to make adjustments as you drive.
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Post by Ryan Walker on Jan 18, 2021 23:08:20 GMT
Would anyone be willing to share their oval setup or base setup at least?
I've tried making changes but just can't get my head around how to set the cars up.
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Post by Jason White on Jan 18, 2021 23:11:50 GMT
Would anyone be willing to share their oval setup or base setup at least? I've tried making changes but just can't get my head around how to set the cars up. What is the car currently doing? Oversteering? Understeering?
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Post by Ryan Walker on Jan 18, 2021 23:20:04 GMT
Would anyone be willing to share their oval setup or base setup at least? I've tried making changes but just can't get my head around how to set the cars up. What is the car currently doing? Oversteering? Understeering? Understeering big time on corner entry. My setup incase you want to test it and give feedback - USAC Setup
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Post by Jason White on Jan 18, 2021 23:21:58 GMT
What is the car currently doing? Oversteering? Understeering? Understeering big time on corner entry. My setup incase you want to test it and give feedback - USAC SetupI need access. I can do some testing with the #77 M16-Offy and get back to you.
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Post by Ryan Walker on Jan 18, 2021 23:24:19 GMT
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Post by Jason White on Jan 18, 2021 23:26:58 GMT
Can't see the file I'm afraid. Can you try filedropper?
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Post by Ryan Walker on Jan 19, 2021 0:03:25 GMT
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Post by Jason White on Jan 19, 2021 0:04:14 GMT
Ok that worked. Let me do some testing and get back to you.
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